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    Post  Shade Cauliflower on Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:56 am

    On the off chance this is entirely fucked up, then forum data should be lost until the site changed hands from Andreas to Jack correct?

    Please tell me someone, be it Jack, Ricard, Jason, or Andreas has a copy of the forums circa whenever the site was transferred to Jack.

    Right? Because that would at least erase a few months worth of data, rather than 8 or 9 years worth.

    But anyways web hosts and anyone that touches a computer. If you haven't learned yet: always back up your computer! If you have valuable data on your computer, failsafe it by backing up your back ups!


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    Post  Upended Quint on Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:00 am

    Spirit of King Mark wrote:Most of the old gang is here now. I wonder why Quint hates this MB so much.

    I'm sure the old board will be back but this place isn't too bad
    Compared to Ricard's original site, traffic here is practically none-existent. It's like trying to have a conversation in a morgue. Tonight is the busiest I've seen this place in weeks - and that's only because Andreas has posted. And I miss Alex Cremers.

    This board is no substitute for the original and best. [drama]It feels like internet purgatory[/drama].

    I'm getting bored with it.


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    Post  Ghost Pirate LeBlanc on Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:02 am

    Shade Cauliflower wrote:On the off chance this is entirely fucked up, then forum data should be lost until the site changed hands from Andreas to Jack correct?

    Please tell me someone, be it Jack, Ricard, Jason, or Andreas has a copy of the forums circa whenever the site was transferred to Jack.

    Right? Because that would at least erase a few months worth of data, rather than 8 or 9 years worth.

    But anyways web hosts and anyone that touches a computer. If you haven't learned yet: always back up your computer! If you have valuable data on your computer, failsafe it by backing up your back ups!

    It is my understanding that Andreas never made a backup of the database as it existed before he sent it to Jack

    It is also my understanding that Jack didn't make routine backups - the ONLY place the data is stored is on 1&1 servers.


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    Post  Shade Cauliflower on Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:07 am

    Ghost Pirate LeBlanc wrote:
    Shade Cauliflower wrote:On the off chance this is entirely fucked up, then forum data should be lost until the site changed hands from Andreas to Jack correct?

    Please tell me someone, be it Jack, Ricard, Jason, or Andreas has a copy of the forums circa whenever the site was transferred to Jack.

    Right? Because that would at least erase a few months worth of data, rather than 8 or 9 years worth.

    But anyways web hosts and anyone that touches a computer. If you haven't learned yet: always back up your computer! If you have valuable data on your computer, failsafe it by backing up your back ups!

    It is my understanding that Andreas never made a backup of the database as it existed before he sent it to Jack

    It is also my understanding that Jack didn't make routine backups - the ONLY place the data is stored is on 1&1 servers.

    lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!











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    Post  Spirit of King Mark on Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:11 am

    How many Gigs of memory was needed to store the data on the JWfan and Message board?
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    Post  Guest on Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:18 am

    1.21 jigabytes.
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    Post  Spirit of King Mark on Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:34 am

    that's it, you mean the whole thing fits on a 5$ USB thumbdrive and there's no backup anywhere?
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    Post  Guest on Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:37 am

    Hey, $5 on top of $25 is a lot of money.
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    Post  Shade Cauliflower on Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:56 am

    I imagine, if you strip attachments and avatars, the forum database would fit on a CD with plenty of extra room to spare.

    So a CD costs what...10 cents?

    So maybe a DVD for the entirety of JWFan? 20 cents?

    Also, some 1&1 Legalese:

    After termination, you will no longer have access to your account and Your Data, including but not limited to e-mails, log files, databases, or other data files associated with your account may be deleted. 1&1 accepts no liability for such deleted information or content.

    If any of Your Data is damaged, deleted, lost or corrupted in any way, or becomes otherwise unavailable due to termination or suspension of your account pursuant to this Agreement, 1&1 will have no obligation or liability to you.
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    Post  Faleel's Essence on Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:48 am

    Well I have a .txt file with some of JWFan forum post data stored on it.
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    Post  Spirit of King Mark on Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:19 pm

    Can we get our post count back even if the posts are deleted?
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    Post  Faleel's Essence on Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:13 pm

    Spirit of King Mark wrote:Can we get our post count back even if the posts are deleted?

    just put it in your user title
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    Post  Sideways Koray on Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:17 pm

    Would you guys honestly be bothered? I don't care either way.


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    Post  Spirit of King Mark on Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:36 pm

    yes
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    Post  Andreas on Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:12 pm

    Hello,

    I can only talk over my server and my reasons.

    The old server system 200X - 2010 create daily backup
    to a external storage server. But this storage server
    was a add-on for the root server. After the termination
    of the contract (Root server) they delete the backups
    on the external storage server.
    There was no reason for further backups as I host the
    website. After that they was no reason to save this
    backup for me. Jack was my successor and his task was to
    create backups, not my.

    It was a mistake to leave the website and stop the hosting after
    so many years. Sorry.

    But what can we do now? I hope that all members starts a new
    beginning.
    In the future, with a new website and messageboard we will
    see many backups.

    Ricard and Jason will recieve full backups every 1-2 months.
    I create a backup to my own NAS server (@Home)
    The system create daily backups to a external server
    ...

    It's sad, but what else can we do?

    I hope you understand me (my englisch and my reasons).

    Sad Sad Sad

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    Post  Trent B's Ghost on Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:32 pm

    Sideways Koray wrote:Would you guys honestly be bothered? I don't care either way.

    I don't care either. If some of you really care that much about your post count, then you need to get out more often. The post count can be built up again. It's not something that we don't need anyways. So who cares (other than a couple of you) how many posts you have made on a forum? I certainly don't. Hell half the time I don't even see how many I have, or if I have gone past a milestone on making say 20,000 posts.

    To me post count is an insignificant number, if it's lost then hey it's lost. There's nothing we can do about it, except get the number back by posting again.
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    Post  Upended Quint on Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:20 pm

    Nah, posts counts are like badges of honour. I wouldn't want to lose mine, but it's not looking like we're going to keep ahold of 'em so what can you do.
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    Post  scallenger on Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:58 pm

    Well as for articles and stuff from the MB, any way that maybe archive.org saved any of those?
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    Post  Spirit of King Mark on Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:18 pm

    Yes, Ricard said he was saving stuff from there
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    Post  Ghost Pirate LeBlanc on Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:15 pm

    I've now sent Jack THREE messages and wrote on his facebook wall since his last communication to me, and he isn't responding.

    I'm thinking our data is gone.


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    Post  Upended Quint on Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:48 pm

    And your money...

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    Post  Shade Cauliflower on Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:52 pm

    Fuck it. Let's use this as an opportunity to really revamp site, forums, everything.

    Rise out of the ashes, stronger and more powerful than ever before! Or some inspirational mumbo jumbo like that.
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    Post  Ricard on Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:35 am

    Shade Cauliflower wrote:Let's use this as an opportunity to really revamp site.

    Rise out of the ashes, stronger and more powerful than ever before!

    That's exactly what I'm doing with the main site as we speak. Hopefully we don't have to do the same with the forums.


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    Post  Upended Quint on Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:37 am

    I don't want to start all over again for a second time. It's not the same. I honestly am disappointed we'll be losing our history and post counts; not to mention I created quite a few of the popular threads on Ricard's board. I'm gutted all that history looks to be lost, my own contributions, gone. I'm thinking I'll leave the community a while and I might return once/if the new place takes off, which I hope for Ricard, Andreas and Jason it does.

    Maybe Tintin will be a good enough reason to talk Williams and movies with the guys again.
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    Post  St. Elmo on Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:42 am

    Really, Quint? It's not the content that keeps bringing me back to JWFan.com. It's the people. And they're here.

    Well, the ones I care about anyway.

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